Cindy "Shiv" Burman wants a seat at the Injustice Society's table -- and now, she has taken her first step towards that goal. On last week's episode of Stargirl, Cindy seized an opportunity to attack Courtney, who had found her way into the ISA's network of underground tunnels. The ensuing battle saw Shiv take the upper hand, only for her to be knocked aside by Justin the Janitor before she could strike the killing blow. In "Shiv, Part Two," she will have to deal with the fallout of that decision and how it impacts her relationship with her father, the villainous Dragon King.

Speaking to CBR, Shiv actor Meg DeLacy offered some insight into Cindy and her insecurities. She discussed how she originally auditioned for another role and how she prepared to unleash her inner mean girl for the part. She hinted at a tragic future for her relationship with her father, as well as some Shiv storylines that could be explored in Season 2. She also teased more superpowers, Cindy's potential for good and more.

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CBR: Tell me a little about how you landed the role.

Meg DeLacy: So, interesting story! I originally auditioned for Yolanda and tested for it. I did not see Yvette [Monreal] in the room, because she was shooting something else in a different country. But I did meet Anjelika [Washington], who plays Beth.

When I found out I didn't get Yolanda, a couple of days later, they were like, "Hey, they want you to read for the villain." And I was like, "Oh! A villain! I didn't even know they were even casting for a villain!" So I got the sides and I kind of tried to figure out who she was just in general, because the story, or the project itself, was very under wraps. Then they were like, "You're definitely the villain, because you were the only one with the edge that Cindy needed." But I was reading Yolanda and they were like, "Oh, okay, that doesn't make sense," but Cindy apparently made sense!

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A lot of these characters have extensive backgrounds in the comics, but in comparison, Cindy is more of a blank slate. How did that impact the way you approached the character?

So actually, Cindy has -- so yeah, she's a blank slate in a way, where her origin story has not yet been dived into. But her whole story and backstory of who she is and why she is, is pretty extensive, to the extent of her dad and her family.

She's been experimented on since she was seven. That's why she has those blades in her arms. She's kind of half human. She is, like her father said, her father's favorite experiment. So she's been tested on and put through the wringer and trained to be the best supervillain her dad has ever made.

So that effects, then, her high school life and the way that she portrays herself and how she has a power issue, how she wants to be in control. Within this whole story, within the first season, you find out, obviously, she's like, "I'm not gonna wait anymore. I want to be part of the ISA. I want to put on my suit." And so then it kind of takes off from there.

But when I dove into this character, I sat with a lot of just family beliefs and how crazy and unbearable that was and that brought the mean girl from within out.

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Cindy's relationship with her father is obviously very complex. How does that continue to evolve?

Well, I'm constantly trying to find his approval. All she wants is like a warm hug from her father. She wants a "good job." She wants him to say, "I'm proud of you," and has never gotten that. So that's a constant struggle within the whole show. Still, even at the end of it, she still doesn't get that warmth that she wants, so she kind of goes insane. She's like, "Are you kidding? I proved myself. I do all these things. You're not listening to me."

She's literally by herself, so that's why she is just outraged or needs to show yucky parts of herself, because she's alone. And that will never end. That relationship with her father, I don't think the audience will see it get any better, but she'll just take over. [laughs]

We've seen flashbacks for some of the other characters. Will we see any of Cindy's younger years? How does the show continue to explore her past?

In Season 1, there will not be any flashbacks. There will be moments of us talking about things in the past. Very discreet, not too much information, but I'm sure the second season will get to it.

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Cindy has shown off a few of her superpowers so far, but have we seen all she can do?

No. We have not. That's probably a second season exploration.

In last week's episode, Cindy had a run-in with Justin the Janitor and he suggested that maybe she isn't all bad. Does the show explore that idea at all?

I mean, I honestly think it's up to interpretation. Every actor I've worked with that plays a villain, they all talk about the tinge of good in them, which then makes it even easier to become bad. It all roots from something, and I've said it before: her insecurities -- these insecurities -- that's where all of her yuckiness roots from, and that's very human, and that's okay. Insecurities are good to have, because you learn from them and you grow. With her, they're so large that she's almost a little blinded by them, but she still is struggling.

She's a teenager, too, during all this stuff. So, because she hasn't yet reached her top "I'm the villain, I'm evil," I'm sure Janitor Justin was like, "Hey, before you go and jump in and try to be this insane villain... you haven't jumped yet, so just beware, be cautious and know what you're doing before you do it."


DC Universe's Stargirl stars Brec Bassinger as Courtney Whitmore (Stargirl) and Luke Wilson as Pat Dugan (S.T.R.I.P.E.). The series airs Monday on DC Universe and Tuesdays on The CW at 8 pm ET/PT. It also stars Amy Smart, Yvette Monreal, Anjelika Washington, Cameron Gellman, Trae Romano, Jake Austin Walker, Hunter Sansone, Meg DeLacy, Neil Jackson and Christopher James Baker.

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