Thor: Ragnarok is finally out in theaters, have you managed to see it yet? We know you have, and we also know you’re dying to share your opinion. If you have seen the third solo outing for the God of Thunder like us, you’ll have some opinions on the cosmic road trip that Thor and company go on. It’s a truly entertaining film that doesn’t shy away from being different from other films in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. That’s largely down to Taika Waititi’s individual style of filmmaking. And although there are plenty of things to enjoy across the film, we’ve also found some issues with it too. Don’t hate us.
Some of them are plot related and some of them deal with the way the film treats these popular characters. We look at the film from the beginning right down to the explosive finale picking holes in major plot twists and analyzing the actions of various gods and monsters. Don’t worry, we’re not saying Thor: Ragnarok is a bad film, it just has a few issues is all. We still love the crazy adventure we’re taken on. But this is your final warning, there are major spoilers ahead.
15. HATED: THE WARRIORS THREE
In the first two Thor films, the Warriors Three were part of the comedic relief but also some of the heaviest hitters in Asgard. They backed up Thor whenever he needed it, and could dish out a beating if needed. But unfortunately, Thor: Ragnarok treated them like red shirts from Star Trek — destined to die.
As soon as Hela made her way to Asgard, she instantly killed Volstagg and Fandral. They didn’t have the chance to put up a fight. We’ve seen them fight off the Destroyer and even evade the Asgardian army in Thor: The Dark World. But they couldn’t dodge two knives from Hela. It just seems like the writers couldn’t be bothered to keep them in the film so killed them off. At least Hogun lasted a while longer and actually fought Hela before he was impaled. Don’t even get us started on the absence of Sif.
14. LOVED: VALKYRIE
Surely you expected this one right? We loved Valkyrie. She was a warrior who proved she was more than formidable throughout the film. And what’s better, was she wasn’t included as a love interest for Thor — she’d probably rather punch him than kiss him. But it’s her backstory and defeat by Hela that truly makes her interesting.
She was one of the elite fighting force to try bring the villain down, but the group were savagely beaten. Her role throughout the film sees her try and get redemption for her failure, and it’s genuinely a really interesting arc that runs alongside Thor. Plus, her chemistry with Hulk and Banner was fantastic. Knowing that she knew Banner from somewhere but she couldn’t figure out how. Hey Marvel, if you ever want to do a solo Valkyrie film, we’re okay with that.
13. HATED: SURTUR
The film opened with Thor in chains after he’d been captured by the Fire Demon Surtur. The villain is voiced by Clancy Brown and sounds terribly intimidating. But the only thing that’s interesting about Surtur is that he’s on fire and wants to destroy Asgard. Aside from that, he’s a stereotypical villain who speaks in entire monologues that reveal far too much plot information.
It’s not that he’s a bad villain, he’s a key aspect to the film, but the writing of his character is awful. There’s no real reason why he wants to burn Asgard to a cinder, but he’s determined to wipe out the Asgardians. We only care that he might succeed, not his reasons for doing so. He could have been a captivating villain, but just felt like an afterthought.
12. LOVED: THE GRANDMASTER
The exuberant Jeff Goldblum did a fantastic job as playing one of the Elders of the universe. He’s actually the brother of the Collector, but who knows if we’ll ever see the two share the same screen. And although there are many scene stealing performances from various characters in the film, Jeff Goldblum has plenty.
Whether it’s melting someone or even the post-credits scene, he owns every second of screentime he’s given. He has the audience’s undivided attention every time he speaks, because he has such a cheery disposition. For a man that forces people to fight to the death, he has such a positive outlook on life, and although part of that is the Grandmaster’s manipulative nature it’s still great to watch. Kevin Feige needs to figure out a way for him to make another appearance in the MCU.
11. HATED: THE UNDEAD ARMY
Okay, so part of Hela’s plan to overthrow Asgard was to raise an undead army of her centuries old followers. But why? She practically decimated the Asgardian army just by herself, she really didn’t need a huge faceless CGI horde at her disposal. We understand that she wanted Fenris, her giant wolf, back from the dead — who wouldn’t?
But the undead zombie horde felt too over the top, especially since they all fall when Hela dies. That felt closer to The Phantom Menace or even the end of The Avengers than a Thor movie. Maybe Blanchett’s villain didn’t want to spend her time in Asgard completely alone, but those undead soldiers didn’t look like great company, let’s be honest. The only good scene involving the army was Skurge gunning them down.
10. LOVED: THE ODINFORCE
So when the trailers for the film showed Hela destroying Mjolnir, many wondered how this would leave Thor in terms of his powers and skill set. And through some helpful visions of Odin every so often, we come to learn that his hammer isn’t what gives him those powers.
They’re actually already inside him, the Hammer just focused them. So when he unleashes his power, he flows with electricity and truly becomes the God of Thunder. It’s a great way of pushing his character further than we’ve seen him previously. Because he has to fight in different ways than he’s used to. But when he embraces his new powers he realizes that he’s quite the opposite of powerless. It’ll be interesting to see how he uses those powers going forward into the MCU.
9. HATED: NOBODY NOTICED ODIN ACTING STRANGE
At the end of Thor: The Dark World, Loki had taken over the throne and was ruling Asgard whilst pretending to be Odin. He’d already left Odin in a care home in New York, meaning he could lead Asgard how he saw fit. And suddenly, ‘Odin’ became a lot more flamboyant.
Let’s face it, Anthony Hopkins was the perfect actor to portray the stoic and regal King of Asgard, so seeing him acting like Loki was hilarious. But how did none of his guards, friends or even the Warriors Three not catch on that something wasn’t right with him? Plus, his new found love for Loki after imprisoning him only a few years before would definitely seem suspicious. Give the Asgardians a bit more credit, they’re a lot smarter than that.
8. LOVED: HULK AND THOR’S TEAM UP
Although their fight didn’t last as long as we’d like, the journey that Hulk and Thor go on as friends is actually quite an interesting one. Whilst at first, Hulk doesn’t really recognize Thor and hits him as hard as possible several times, it’s after the arena that the two begin to bond.
It’s the first time we’ve really Hulk as a speaking character, who’s able to convey his emotions and talk to other characters coherently. So seeing Thor deal with that and try to rally him on to his side is truly entertaining. But pushing that further and seeing how Thor copes with a Banner who hasn’t been himself for two years is quite touching. Because now Banner really is a fish out of water, who has been plunged onto an entirely new world. Their dynamic was fantastic to watch.
7. HATED: ODIN’S DEATH
We did warn you about spoilers. Very early on in the film, Thor and Loki track down their father with some help from Doctor Strange. He’s standing on the edge of a cliff in Norway, of course. He reveals that he’s dying, and then evaporates into golden dust that sprinkles away into the sky.
And although it’s an emotional death because he tells his sons that he loves them both, it feels very rushed. They go from Asgard, to New York and then to Norway for the death scene within minutes. It didn’t give Anthony Hopkins justice for the role as Odin that it should have done. We’re not saying the death was poorly done, but the journey to find him alongside his final moments could have at least lasted longer.
6. LOVED: ASGARD
Well to be exact, we loved the destruction of Thor’s home. But honestly, there’s a good reason for it. When Tony blew up all of his suits at the end of Iron Man 3, it showed a progression in his character. He didn’t need to compensate the emptiness in his life with robotic armor anymore. Thor is in a similar situation.
The God of Thunder was always tied to Asgard, and rightfully so. But with his duties to the Avengers and his search for the Infinity Stones, those ties had become weakened. He was being pulled in various different directions. But now that Asgard is gone and he just has the people to look after, his focus can be more honed on doing what’s right. It might be difficult for the hero losing his home, but it’ll be better in the long run.
5. HATED: THE “IMPORTANCE” OF SKURGE
Karl Urban is a fantastic actor. There’s no doubt that he’s talented when it comes to action heavy roles. So when we saw his appearance in the trailer toting two machine guns, we got pretty excited. Unfortunately, we were left incredibly disappointed by how it treated Skurge. He’s recruited into Hela’s employ and whilst he does have some funny moments. His importance to the plot lasts a few minutes.
He defends some of the escaping Asgardians as the undead army attack them. That’s the scene where he wields Des and Troy, his two guns. Sure, it’s cool. But to say they billed Karl Urban as an important part of the cast, it was disappointing to see his role relegated to but a few scenes. Skurge deserved better than that.
4. LOVED: DOCTOR STRANGE
We already knew this was coming simply because of the post-credits scene after Doctor Strange. But how cool was it to see Stephen Strange interact with Thor and Loki? It helped show the connective tissue in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. And although it would’ve been incredible to see Doctor Strange appear towards the end of the film, maybe even in the fight with Hela, that one scene was great.
It even helped show off Chris Hemsworth’s fantastic comedic ability. When he held out his hand for Mjolnir, and there was crashing sounds coming from around the Sanctum Sanctorum, we were howling. It was a great way of paving the way to Infinity War in a character driven aspect. So that by the time Thanos comes calling, Thor and Strange are already acquainted.
3. HATED: HULK V THOR
Now before you get angry, we enjoyed the fight between Hulk and Thor. Honestly, we did. The jokes, the “sun’s getting real low” moment and seeing two Marvel giants duking it out was great. So why didn’t it last longer? The biggest take away from both trailers was that Hulk and Thor were going to fight, but we felt misled.
Sure, there was an intriguing plot, but the selling point was that fight. In a similar way to the Batman v Superman beat down, the conflict between the two heroes was the least important part. And yes, it adapted some of “Planet Hulk” into the film, but not enough. Even if the film had been ten minutes longer with a round two of Hulk and Thor, we would’ve been happy.
2. LOVED: LOKI’S REACTION TO HULK
Let’s take a second to roll back to 2012. At the end of The Avengers, Hulk jumped into Stark Tower and proceeded to throw Loki back and forth, smashing him into the ground. He even proclaimed him a “Puny God”. Well, it turns out that Loki never quite got over that brutal beating.
When it was revealed who the Grandmaster’s champion was in the ring, Loki was absolutely horrified. Maybe he was worried he was going to get thrown about again. But when Hulk pulled a similar move on Thor, he jumped up shouting “YES, THAT’S HOW THAT FEELS!”. Maybe he and Thor should make a support group for those beaten up by the Hulk. It was a brilliant moment that was a nice callback to the first Avengers movie.
1. HATED: THE FAMILY REVEAL
The big twist in the film was the relationship that tied Hela to Asgard. It turns out that she was Odin’s firstborn daughter, Thor’s older sister. Odin used her to murder his way through the cosmos and helped establish Asgard as a seat of power. Okay, interesting.
First off, Asgard was already a seat of power in the universe when Odin’s Father, Bor, fought off the Dark Elves from destroying the Nine Realms. So why did Odin need to go and conquer them again? Also, we’re sick of Marvel movies pitting heroes and villains that have a similar skill set. We’ve already had Asgardian vs. Asgardian during the first Thor movie, we don’t need it again. Tying Hela to Thor’s family felt like a cheap way of finding a connection between hero and villain.
What did you love and hate about Thor: Ragnarok? Let us know in the comments!
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