Whether you're a fan or not, it's hard to argue that there are precious few moments in the DC Extended Universe of films that could be described as “hopeful.” “Man of Steel,” "Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice” and “Suicide Squad” focused on characters either deeply stoic or deeply flawed, but that might be changing in one of the cinematic universe’s upcoming films, “Justice League.”

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Heroic Hollywood recently spoke with “Batman v Superman” Second Unit Director Damon Caro and Visual Effects Supervisor Bryan Hirota (both are working on “Justice League,” too) about the tonal differences between the two films, and what the upcoming hero ensemble flick might have in store once the superpowers finally unite.

“The interesting thing is, on 'Man of Steel,' in [Zack Snyder’s] head he had the storyline treatment of where they were going to go, and at the beginning of ‘BvS’ it was even richer and deeper," Caro said. "The arc was ‘BvS’ was the midway point and the darker movie. Hence what happens at the end; the whole tone of it was darker. If you play your story all at one level, there are no peaks and valleys, there’s no life. The great stories, the Greek tragedies, even life we have to be knocked down before we can build our way up. ‘Justice League’ was always the rebirth of hope and the rise. People try to say that it’s a response to the backlash, and I’d definitely say that criticisms were heard, but it’s not like we threw everything out and started with a blank slate. It’s a bit like ‘Star Wars’. ‘Empire Strikes Back’? Dark movie! But then ‘Return of the Jedi’ is the rise and the rebuilding of hope.”

“Justice League” sees Batman and Wonder Woman assembling the eponymous superhero team after the events of “Batman v Superman” reveal a need for heroes across the world to unite. The film will bring together the primary members of DC Comic’s Justice League: Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, Cyborg and the Flash. Whether the film ends up being more hopeful than DC’s previous cinematic outings remains to be seen, but here’s hoping.

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Debuting in theaters November 17, “Justice League” is a DC Films production directed by Zack Snyder and starring Ben Affleck, Henry Cavill, Amy Adams, Gal Gadot, Jason Momoa and Ezra Miller. The next film in DC’s Extended Universe is “Wonder Woman,” debuting June 2, directed by Patty Jenkins and starring Gal Gadot, Chris Pine and Connie Nielsen.