Any big franchise or property is going to inspire fan theories and speculation. It’s only natural when something becomes so big that the fans want to take it and try to guess the big twists before they happen or imagine their own ideal movie. There are few properties bigger than Star Wars. Consequently that means there’s few fan theory machines that churn out as much insanity as the galaxy far, far way. One of the most exciting things about a new Star Wars movie isn’t the movie itself -- it's what can be parcelled off from the trailers and promotion material to build theories and predictions.

Like anything, most fan theories for Star Wars are way off base. They have not a snowball’s chance in hell of making it canon or anything close to canon. Yet there are surprising number of times when Star Wars fans get their theories proven correctly -- sometimes they even nail every detail. The confirmation of a fan theory doesn’t always come in a Star Wars movie. It can come in a comic, novel or even a TV show but it still comes. So does the polar opposite situation, the inevitable debunking of the most ridiculous theories. This is list a tale of two types of fan theories. The twists were fan guessed correctly, out of seemingly nowhere, and the potential twists that were laughably off-base.

20 RIGHT: Q'IRA IS STONE COLD BAD

As opposed to most other Star Wars movies, there wasn’t much theorizing about Solo: A Star Wars Story. The reasons why are obvious. Solo wasn't going to end with nearly every main character dying tragically. There’s not a whole lot of tension to a movie whose main character, is famously murdered by his son in his elder years. However, the cast of Solo isn’t entirely made up of original trilogy characters, as much as Chewie, Han and Lando play a big part. Solo: A Star Wars Story did introduce new characters into the canon, including Q’ira. It is concerning Q’ira where most of the speculation settled before the movie. People felt she was Enfys Nest or even Rey’s mom. However, most of them circled around to the idea that Q'ira would betray Han or was evil in some way.

Q’ira’s morality is a bit more complicated than her just being “evil.” Q’ira is more selfish and scared than a true disciple of the Dark Side and she also doesn’t entirely betray Han. Q’ira more abandons Han after she uses him to launch herself to a new crime boss position. Yet it’s definitely correct that Q’ira was an antagonist, of some kind, and that she doesn’t get a happy ending with Han.

19 WRONG: THERE IS ANOTHER OTHER SKYWALKER

The Skywalker Family is vital to the Star Wars saga. The main movies are (arguably) a story of the Skywalker family itself. Whether its Anakin, Luke or even Kylo Ren, the Skywalker family holds an incredible place of importance in the Star Wars universe. Yet one of the more outlandish theories out there is there's a third Skywalker who, somehow, has yet to be introduced. There’s a few variations on the extra Star Wars Skywalker. Some factions believe that Shmi Skywalker had another child (born of the Force) that Anakin didn’t know about at all. Another variation on the theory is that Anakin  had another secret child on his own, meaning Luke and Leia have another sibling that they have never met.

The ridiculously thin basis for this theory is Yoda telling Obi-Wan in Empire Strikes Back that “there is another.” Obi-Wan forgets a lot of things he knows from the prequels in the original trilogy. Forgetting Luke has a sister, Leia, is a major oversight. So, Yoda wouldn't be telling Obi-Wan of Leia in that scene, but someone else entirely. It’s interesting idea but totally fake. If there was a new Skywalker, they would’ve been introduced long before now. The Skywalker line lives and/or will die with Kylo Ren. That's it.

18 RIGHT: BOBA FETT LIVES

This one is falls into the Schroeder’s Cat version of fandom. It could be true, no one knows for sure. It’s just up to Disney and the new keepers of the Star Wars mythology to confirm or deny its existence (although the recent news of his solo movie might be the thumbs up we were looking for). However, in the now defunct Star Wars Legends timeline, Boba Fett didn’t die at the bottom of a Sarlacc Pit. Boba survived, flew out of the Pit’s creepy maw and went onto have a myriad of adventures that were more impressive than anything he did in the movies (although that bar wasn’t very high).

The Expanded Universe confirmed Boba Fett’s survival, mostly from the demand and theorizing of the fandom who refused to believe a character who looked so cool, could go out in such an unspectacular fashion. Fett’s EU survival redeemed the character in a way that didn’t seem possible after Return of the Jedi. In the current Star Wars canon, Boba making his way out of the Pit hasn’t been confirmed … yet. It has, however, been implied. In the novel Star Wars: Aftermath a Tatooine resident called Cobb Vanth finds Fett’s armor on the planet. The armor is found alone, there’s no body and it’s not close to Sarlacc Pit. While it’s possible that Fett’s armor somehow made it out the Pit, leaving Boba behind, it’s not that likely. It’s more plausible that Boba escaped and left his armor in his wake.

17 WRONG: CHEWBACCA IS THE REBELLION'S SECRET AGENT

The story of Han Solo in the original trilogy is one of the reluctant rebel. Han claims over and over in A New Hope that he just wants to be left alone and get paid. Of course, Han eventually shows his heart of gold and joins The Rebellion, becoming a general. Yet while Han is trying to be an edgy loner, Chewbacca lurks in the background (literally) wailing his disapproval. There was a theory that Chewbacca’s disapproval of Han’s selfish actions went farther than him just wishing Han would be a better person. The theory stated that Chewie was (and has always been) a rebel spy. Chewie’s relationship with Han wasn’t just a genuine friendship or the result of a wookiee life debt. The theory explained that Chewie was grooming Han for a position with the rebels. Chewie was recruited during the Clone Wars, after working with Yoda, and for decades afterwards was secretly helping The Rebellion.

Solo: A Star Wars Story safely debunked all of this nonsense. The movie revealed that Han and Chewie met each other by pure happenstance. Furthermore, if Chewbacca is a Rebel spy, he’s an incredibly bad one because he ended up in the Empire’s muddy underground prison where he (presumably) ate human flesh.

16 RIGHT: KYLO STRIKES DOWN HIS TRUE ENEMY

Almost every theory about Supreme Leader Snoke amounted to nothing in Star Wars: The Last Jedi. Snoke wasn’t the mastermind that many believed or the second coming of The Emperor. Snoke was just a means to an end in building the threat of Kylo Ren and giving him Supreme Leader status. Snoke’s demise is one of several big Last Jedi shockers, even if it’s an anticlimactic one. Yet there were fans who predicted the method of Snoke’s demise long before it came to pass. Even though Kylo Ren was pretty obvious about his evil intentions in The Force Awakens, many believed he would be the reason for Snoke’s end.

The time period of when Kylo would end Snoke was up-for-grabs. The most popular theory was that Kylo would follow an identical path to his grandfather. Kylo would kill his Dark Side master in the last act of the trilogy and cement his redemption, just as Vader did with Palpatine in Return of the Jedi. The truth ended up being a lot different. Kylo not only killed Snoke in the second part of the new trilogy, but it didn’t have anything to do with redemption. Kylo took out Snoke to give himself even greater power, which ended up being a heartbreaker for Rey and Reylo shippers around the world. Still, those fans who predicted Kylo would strike down his master were right on the money.

15 WRONG: SNOKE WANTS KYLO REN'S BODY

Given Snoke’s mysterious nature, theories about his true identity were a weed that grew throughout the Star Wars fandom. No fan was content with the possibility that Snoke was just some guy. There needed to be more to his identity or, at the very least, more to his motivations than just being evil. Thus the theory that Snoke wanted to possess Kylo Ren’s body was born.

The one thing that was empirically obvious about Snoke throughout The Force Awakens is that he wasn’t in the greatest shape. With half of his face being caved in and his body being twisted and spindly, Snoke looked like he was near his end. There’s been plenty of Star Wars aliens who have looked sickly but are quite healthy. However, with Snoke fans believed there was more to it. The belief was that Snoke was training Kylo Ren so that one day he would be able to take over Kylo’s body. The basis for the theory was the knowledge that Snoke was supposed to be ancient. The theory stated that Snoke achieved near immortality by jumping from one body to another. Kylo Ren was being groomed as his next vessel. Again, the truth was much more underwhelming. Snoke’s just died, without pomp or circumstance.

14 RIGHT: DARTH MAUL STRIKES BACK

The Darth Maul survival theory is along the same lines as the Boba Fett survival theory. Although Maul does infinitely more than Fett in his debut movie, the character still went out way too soon for most fan’s liking. Maul (and his lightsaber fights) are one of the few universal praised elements of The Phantom Menace. However, at the end of the movie Maul is chopped in half and thrown down a bottomless pit. Many fans refused to believe it ended there. If Darth Vader can survive being burned alive, a little hemicorporectomy shouldn’t be a huge deal for Maul.

So, much like Boba Fett, the powers that be obliged. The animated series, Star Wars: The Clone Wars revealed that Maul had survived his encounter with Obi-Wan and got brand-new robot legs too. Maul didn’t just live, he thrived. He did drop the Darth part of his name, giving up the Sith and went just a tad bit insane. Yet otherwise Maul became a formidable foe for the galaxy. Maul took all his considerable skills and turned them to crime and mayhem, becoming one of the galaxy’s biggest crime lords. As revealed in Solo, Maul also established one of the biggest and most dangerous syndicates in the galaxy, Crimson Dawn. It’s a criminal reign that started with fans simply believing that Maul couldn’t be killed so easily by Obi-Wan.

13 WRONG: SNOKE IS THE BABY DADDY

Anakin Skywalker is more than just the Chosen One and/or the future Darth Vader. Anakin was also immaculately convinced, at least according to his mother Shmi. There’s many things revealed in The Phantom Menace that mark Anakin as different (or mind-numbingly annoying). One of the strangest is Shmi asserting that Anakin has no father and The Force made her pregnant. With such a vague and bonkers statement, fans have continually tried to come with theories to find Anakin’s real father. The efforts only doubled after the novel Darth Plagueis was removed from canon, as the book heavily implied that Plagueis (or Palpatine) had manipulated The Force to allow Anakin to be conceived within Shmi.

A variation of that story survived with a new theory. It was thought through, The Force means or just good ole biological ones, Snoke was the real father of Anakin. The conventional wisdom was that Snoke being the progenitor of the Skywalker line would explain his interest and knowledge of the family. If Snoke is Kylo’s “great-grandpa” it would give some context for why he’s so interested in the moody Dark Side user and happens to know so much about the Skywalkers, despite being such a new addition to the canon. After The Last Jedi, with Snoke being chopped in half, the chances of this theory coming true are pretty slim. It’s definitely possible but it’s far more likely that Snoke is just what he appears, a dead guy with a messed-up face.

12 RIGHT: LUKE MEETS HIS END IN THE LAST JEDI

The first official trailer for The Last Jedi was misleading in a lot of ways. It implied that Rey would join the Dark Side and the backgrounds of certain scenes were manipulated to make them appear like they were happening in entirely different locations than those contained in the final product. However, one hint from the trailer turned out to be true. Upon the release of The Last Jedi’s trailer and the way Luke was presented, many felt that he wouldn’t make it out of the movie alive. This did happen. Luke expires in The Last Jedi but not in the way many people were expecting.

The cause of Luke’s death was figured to be Kylo Ren, Snoke or just a huge battle with the First Order. None of these scenarios happened, at least not literally. Luke does face off against The First Order and Kylo Ren but only has a “Force hologram.” In reality, Luke’s death was much like Obi-Wan’s in the original trilogy. Luke expended all his energy and gave himself over to The Force, presumably to let the old legacy of the Jedi die with him and to instruct Rey as a Force Ghost, leading her to an all-new era. Luke’s death is one of The Last Jedi’s many examples of taking fan expectations and twisting them just slightly to create something new and exciting.

11 WRONG: REY IS LUKE'S (HAND) CLONE

From the moment Rey force pulled Anakin’s lightsaber to her, if not before, fans were desperate to find out the character’s identity. It seemed impossible that Rey was just a girl from Jakku. The theories of Rey’s identity ran the gamut of insanity. Most of them were mundane, making her either the daughter of a Skywalker or a Kenobi. These would’ve been plausible, if expected, explanations. Yet they just scratch the surface of the insane length fans went to in order to make Rey (more) important than the main protagonist of the new trilogy. For a while, there was a pervasive belief than Rey wasn’t the daughter of Luke Skywalker but his clone.

Rey wasn’t just any Skywalker clone either. Rey was born out of Luke’s severed hand that was chopped off in his duel with Vader during Empire Strikes Back. The belief wasn’t that Rey was just Daisy Ridley with circa 1980 Mark Hamill’s hand -- instead, DNA was taken from the removed appendage and used to create Rey in a lab, or some other location. Thankfully, this wasn’t true. The reveal that Rey was a daughter of nobody smugglers was disappointing for some but it’s far more thematically fitting with Star Wars than Rey being a chopped Jedi hand baby.

10 RIGHT: REY IS A NOBODY

The Force Awakens went to great pains to hide Rey’s parentage. There’s every indication in the movie that Rey is much, much more than she seems, and she comes from some great lineage. While Star Wars fans can get a little carried away in their speculation, they weren’t totally off base with thinking Rey had some mysterious and powerful parents. The Force Awakens really implies that Rey’s parents are a secret worth knowing. Still there were more than a few fans who believed what became the ultimate truth of Rey -- she wasn't born to some special parents or great Jedi lineage. Rey is just Rey and she’s not connected to the Skywalker or the even the Kenobi Family. She’s the daughter of two smugglers who abandoned her on Jakku just because they’re awful people, not because they were trying to protect her.

The answer of Rey’s parents isn’t something that most people were expecting, but most people isn’t everyone. Before The Last Jedi was out, there was a small faction of fans who had grown tired of thinking Rey had some great father (or mother). Or even more likely, had just run out of logic reasons for why her parents could be Luke or a Kenobi relative.

9 WRONG: REY HATCHED FROM AN EGG

The notion that Rey was grown from cloning Luke’s hand is crazy. However, there is some basis for it in the movies with the existence of clone troopers. Another popular and nutty theory about Rey’s origins would’ve come completely out of left field, if it ended up being true. Some fans believed that Rey was hatched from an egg. If it sounds bonkers, that’s because it is, but there is some evidence for it in Star Wars canon. Max Von Sydow’s Force Awakens character, Lor San Tekka, is big question mark. Force Awakens introduced him as if he was a known entity but he was just an original creation for the movie. The Star Wars comics fleshed out San Tekka a little bit more and revealed that he lived with a people called the Crèche.

The Crèche were a cult whose sole purpose revolved around a gigantic, glowing and floating blue egg. The Crèche believed that one day this egg would hatch a savior that would save the galaxy. After The Crèche first showed up, it didn’t take long for fans to assume that Rey was that mystical egg-hatching savior. There’s a major problem with the theory, other than it being totally silly, as The First Order destroyed the egg before anything came out of it. As much as some fans might want, for whatever reason, Rey to be a magical Force chicken, she’s not. Rey is just Rey.

8 RIGHT: VADER HATES SAND AND TATOOINE

In a lot of fans’ minds the Star Wars prequels created more problems than solutions. The trilogy did tell the story of how Anakin Skywalker fell to the Dark Side and became Darth Vader. However, it also introduced a lot of plot holes like how Leia remembers her birth mother in Return of the Jedi (when Padme died seconds after Leia was born). One of the easily mocked plot holes was concerning Tatooine and Luke. Anakin was born and raised on Tatooine and he even learned that he had new relatives there when went to visit them during Attack of the Clones. If Vader was going to look for his children, Luke or Leia, Tatooine probably would’ve been the first place to look.

However, many fans looked at another scene in Attack of Clones, where Anakin infamously goes on a long monologue about sand and figured that Tatooine would be the last place Vader would look for his children. Obi-Wan wasn’t being foolish in hiding Luke on Tatooine, it was actually the best spot for him -- it's the one place in the galaxy Vader would never go or even consider going and with this theoy, these fans were right. In Marvel’s first Darth Vader series after Disney acquired Star Wars, Vader remarks to himself about Obi-Wan’s cleverness and that he hates the sand planet more than anything else.

7 WRONG: FINN IS LANDO'S SON

Of course, Rey isn’t the only new Star Wars character that fans have been desperate to give biological origins with the original trilogy. When John Bogeya’s Finn first appeared in the trailers for Force Awakens, certain fans became convinced that Finn had to be the son of Lando Calrissian. The evidence for the theory is exactly what you think it is going to be: Lando is one of the few people of color in the Star Wars universe and so is Finn -- naturally, the two must be related.

It does sound vaguely racist. However, it’s not really any Star Wars fan's fault if they believe Lando and Finn were father and son. It’s more a failing of the Star Wars universe that there's been so few characters of color in major roles. In fairness, Lando is also one of the prolific lovers in the Star Wars universe and it'd be surprising if he doesn’t have, at least, one kid out there. It’s true that Lando has yet to appear in the new Star Wars trilogy and Finn’s parentage is even more mysterious than Rey’s now. However, too much time has passed in the new trilogy for it to be revealed that Finn is Lando’s long-lost son who was stolen as a babe and raised as a nameless Stormtrooper.

6 RIGHT: EWOKS EAT HUMAN FLESH

Ewoks are a love or hate ‘em race of Star Wars alien. Depending on the age you were when you first saw Return of the Jedi, Ewoks are either the cutest anthropomorphic teddy bears or the annoying fuzzballs that ruined the original trilogy. The Ewoks are typically seen as harmless, with the assumption that it was outright ridiculous that they managed to take down the Empire with a bunch of sticks. However, since their introduction certain fans have had a nefarious (and correct) view of the furry guerilla fighters -- the Ewoks eat human flesh and are vicious fighter.

The theory was born right during the events of Return of the Jedi. When the Ewoks are first encountered, they tie up Luke and Han, at stick them over a fire to roast. While this act could be viewed as a sacrifice, it looks a lot more like meal preparation. After all, he only reason Luke and Han aren’t eaten is the intervention of C-3P0 (who the Ewoks believe to be a god). The impression of Ewoks as (literal) man eaters was reinforced and confirmed very recently. In an online animated short, “Imperial Feast.” Leia literally plays tug-of-war with the Ewoks over a stormtrooper prisoner. Leia is trying to prevent the little bears from taking their prisoner and roasting him alive so they can consume him. She just barely wins.

5 WRONG: GENERAL HUX IS A SKYWALKER DOUBLE AGENT

Of all the secret parent and child theories, the one surrounding Domhnall Gleeson’s General Hux takes the tinfoil cake. Before anything was known about General Hux and he just appeared as a new name and face in the Star Wars promotional material, fans theorized that he was secretly a Skywalker. Due to Gleeson’s (apparent) physical resemblance to Mark Hamill, fans thought that Hux might be a secret Skywalker. Hux wasn’t just Luke’s son either. In order to take down The First Order, Luke had sent his son to invade their ranks. Hux rose to the rank of general in the First Order to eventually betray them and pull of a huge victory for The Resistance.

A lot still has to be revealed about Hux in the movies. Yet the character already has a canon set of parents and backstory, both of which couldn’t be farther removed from Luke Skywalker. General Hux, whose real name is Armitage, is an Empire brat. He was born to a female kitchen worker and a male Imperial Commandant. It shouldn’t come as a surprise that Hux’s father, who isn't Luke, isn’t going to win any father of the year awards any time soon -- Brendol Hux was a total monster of a human being who turned his son in the genocidal screaming maniac he is in the new Star Wars trilogy.

4 RIGHT: THE REYLO CONNECTION

There’s not much that happens of a positive nature between Rey and Kylo Ren in The Force Awakens. Upon their first meeting, Kylo knocks Rey out and kidnaps her so that he can torture with The Force. When Rey is freed, she watches Kylo kill her new father figure, Han Solo and then ends up trying to kill Kylo herself. Yet for whatever reason fans believed that there was some emotional and deep bond between Kylo and Rey. There were variations on the theory that the two would end up become lovers or they had some familial bond. However, the point was that these two were connected and that their relationship would end becoming one of, if not the most, important relationship of the new trilogy. After The Last Jedi, it’s safe to say those fans were right.

The only thing that is uncertain about Kylo and Rey is where their relationship will end. It’s possible that Rey will be able to bring back Ben Solo to the Light and the two are headed towards some form of a happily ever after. It’s just as possible that the new trilogy won’t have the villain have an eleventh-hour redemption and Kylo will stay committed to the Dark Side. Still it’s undeniable that Rey and Kylo are connected, even without Snoke linking their minds.

3 WRONG: BOBA FETT TOOK OUT UNCLE OWEN AND AUNT BERU

Like any traditional hero, Luke’s story really begins when his parents are taken out by forces beyond his control. Luke is finally convinced to go off with Obi-Wan and become a Jedi when he arrives back to his home to find it on fire and the charred remains of his Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru inside. Obi-Wan (and the audience) assume that Stormtroopers are behind the massacre. Yet one theory puts the blaster in another villain’s hands -- Boba Fett. The evidence for this assertion is very thin. Yet it’s not totally out of desire to make the lame bounty hunter seem like much more than he was in the original trilogy, which is a total chump. The basis comes from the interaction that Darth Vader and Boba Fett have during Empire Strikes Back. When Vader hires Fett (and all the other bounty hunters) to hunt the crew of the Falcon, Vader tells him that there will be “no disintegrations.” At the very least, this means that Fett has a history of disintegrating people. At the most, it means he disintegrated poor Aunt Beru and Uncle Owen.

It’s an intriguing idea and Fett was on Tatooine when the two were killed. However, there’s absolutely no reason for the bounty hunter to go after them. In fact, in the recent (and canon) novel, From a Certain Point of View, a chapter from Beru’s perspective confirms that stormtrooopers killed her husband and herself.

2 RIGHT: STAR WARS ISN'T A GALAXY FAR, FAR AWAY

This one takes a little squinting and supposition to make sense of but evidently Star Wars has been lying to its audience since the very beginning. The saga doesn’t take place a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away. It takes place in our own universe, or at least a fictionalized version of our own universe. The most obvious bit of evidence is in the form of an easter egg in The Phantom Menace. During a scene in the Senate, representation can be seen from a delegation of aliens who look identical to ET. This is further backed up in the movie E.T. when a kid wearing a Yoda mask during Halloween walks by the pint-sized alien. ET recognizes Yoda, or aliens like Yoda, and tries to converse with him.

Then there’s all the little and much more complicated bits of evidence. Language and turns of phrases being far too similar to the English language in Star Wars for it believably be set in a galaxy far, far away. Characters exclaim things like, “Hell” just like a good ole Earth resident. This theory will never be confirmed concretely. As that would take Star Wars into too much of a science fiction place and make it less of a space fantasy. Yet there’s a lot of proof that suggests that the first line of any Star Wars movie is a downright lie.

1 WRONG: MEESA A DARK LORD OF THE SITH

Before the release of Star Wars: The Force Awakens (and immediately after) the universe seemed ripe with possibilities. Theories abounded among the fandom, including one of the most delightful insane crackpot assertions. The notion that Jar Jar Binks was secretly a Sith Lord. The idea that Jar Jar would be revealed to be evil or be Snoke himself in the new trilogy was the internet joke that wouldn’t go away. However, while the core concept of the theory was amusing it wasn’t entirely based in blind hatred for Jar Jar. There was some “evidence” to back up the claim. The theory stated that every bumbling or foolish thing that Jar Jar did in Phantom Menace (or Attack of the Clones) was a part of a grander plan. Jar Jar wasn’t a moron but rather a genius playing at being a moron. It is rather suspicious that every stupid thing Jar Jar does ends up hurting the Jedi. Lastly, there’s the fact that Jar Jar gave Palpatine the power in the Senate that allowed him to become The Emperor.

It is a fun concept. There’s just no way it’s real… at all. Jar Jar was a “comedic” idiot because George Lucas thought it would be amusing. There was no deeper meaning to Jar Jar. Furthermore, Jar Jar’s last canon appearance was in the novel Aftermath: Empire’s End. In the book it was revealed that Jar Jar was beggar clown on the streets of Theed. He's incredibly far from a mastermind Sith Lord.