From its opening scene, Halloween (2018) plays with the viewer’s expectations. Director David Gordon Green clearly knows what franchise die-hards expect, and has absolutely no intention of delivering on it, instead opting to take the movie in a new, exciting direction. His ability to breathe subversive life into a 40 year old franchise is one-of-a-kind in our nostalgia-focused culture of remakes, reboots and Legacy Sequels, save for one exception: Rian Johnson’s breathtaking Star Wars: The Last Jedi.

The new Halloween begins in a chess-like checkered courtyard, as two podcasters (it is 2018 after all) confront the imprisoned Michael Myers in a mental health institute. Though the continuity of the film ignores all entries in the series save the first, it expects you to know what happens next: The Shape will rise, murder the ones harassing him and escape.

Instead, Green and co-writers Danny McBride and Jeff Fradley turn the script on its head and Michael does nothing. Try as hard as they can, even bringing out the infamous mask, the podcasters only end up disturbing the other prisoners, and the film’s intro is unceremoniously over.

This opening sequence, while full of Halloween’s trademark dread, proves massively unconventional for the series. By introducing a familiar situation but bucking the trend in its resolution, the scene creates far more questions than answers, and makes a clear statement: this is still Halloween, but not like you know.

In last December’s Star Wars: The Last Jedi, Johnson broke ground by weaponizing expectations in the same way, but for the George Lucas’ acclaimed sci-fi franchise. In The Last Jedi, Johnson sets up common Star Wars scenarios, like a rebel assault on an enemy base or a secret plan that will surely save the day, and perfectly subverts the way these typically pan out.

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Johnson, knowing that the rebels always get away and that poorly hatched schemes always work out, grounds his film with legitimate consequences. When Luke Skywalker barely considers snuffing out a padawan, he creates one of the greatest villains in the series. When Poe Dameron ignores orders, he destroys half the fleet of The Resistance.

Though the Star Wars franchise has had great moments in the last couple of decades, The Last Jedi brought back the propulsive energy of uncertainty the series lacked since Return of the Jedi.

Rey and Kylo Ren fighting Imperial Elite in The Last Jedi

The two films, released only 10 months apart, mark a huge step forward, not just in the history of the franchises, but in blockbuster filmmaking. Today, there is significant uproar about the idea of “nostalgia” as it affects the film industry. Studio executives vie for any property they can, because they know audiences will pay for the fuzzy feelings nostalgia can provide.

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Ready Player One and Wreck It Ralph, for example, throw audiences back to their favorite “retro” experiences, but wrapped up in new stories; the idea of the ‘80s makes an appeal in Stranger Things and It (which doubles as a remake); and dozens of dormant franchises found revival both on TV and in theaters. For some reason, someone remade The Mummy. But the tendency to retread has grown old and worn, leading to art that feels stagnant and a wave of movies that are just “fine.”

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But the brilliance of The Last Jedi, and now Halloween, lies in the practical path forward that they present. When a franchise shifts too far, audiences will reject it, like they did Halloween III: Season of the Witch, an entry which ditched Michael Myers altogether and failed miserably at the box office.

Though it still has a devoted group of fans, the left turn was too radical for the series, almost ending John Carpenter’s franchise in the process. But Johnson and Green introduce a new idea to reinvigorate their franchises: invest in recreating the atmosphere and basic story beats of the series, but use the crowd’s comfort to catch them off guard.

The last act of each film illustrates this perfectly, mirroring a specific series moment before unleashing all hell on the audience. Just as Kylo Ren betrays his master to join Rey, calling back to Darth Vader’s throne room turn in Return of the Jedi, Johnson reveals that it was out of selfish ambition rather than a selfless desire to save anyone else. Then, everything shifts and the story focuses on Luke’s helpless regret, and the small light of hope for the future.

On the flip side of that, with 30 minutes remaining in the new Halloween, it seems like Green is setting up a shameless re-do of the original’s last act. But as Allyson Strode follows in her grandmother’s footsteps, fleeing from Michael Myers to a neighbor’s doorbell, the neighbor actually answers the door and saves her life. Rather than take audiences back into a climactic cat-and-mouse showdown, the movie goes absolutely nuts.

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The therapist, dubbed by Laurie as the “new Loomis,” adorns Michael’s mask and murders a police officer. Another officer’s head is used as a jack-o-lantern. In the end, the Strodes’ battle with Michael almost feels like a horrific version of Home Alone. The two movies go absolutely wild at their very ends, but not without first luring viewers into a false sense of security.

However, one thing that can’t go ignored is the fan response to these films. Time will tell how viewers respond to Halloween, but The Last Jedi had a very peculiar reception. The narrative a few months after release was that the film proved highly divisive among hardcore Star Wars fans, but recent studies have cast suspicion on that conclusion.

Luke Skywalker, Rey and Kylo Ren in the poster for Star Wars: The Last Jedi

Apparently, many political figures (somehow including those from Russia) latched on to the progressive themes of the movie, leading an organized campaign to derail the film. Johnson’s film still made over a billion dollars worldwide, but it does have a very vocal minority of fans who cannot stand it. All you have to do is read the comments of any one of CBR’s own posts about Johnson or The Last Jedi to see they’re there.

Whether this is thanks to an aversion to the movie’s politics or a rejection of the way it changes what the series can be is a bit of a mystery, but it could potentially prevent this sort of radical push forward for franchises from coming again.

Hopefully the film industry will see the critical and box office success of these two movies and take note. As the creative sluggishness of nostalgia-mongering has held back so much of cinema in the past decade, these two huge breaths of fresh air have proven massively relieving. If we’re lucky, we might just be on the precipice of an amazing, fresh wave of blockbuster filmmaking.