This past weekend at Comic-Con International in San Diego, "Heroes" creator Tim Kring sat down with Jonah Weiland aboard the world famous CBR Floating Tiki Room to discuss the super powered NBC series' death and what fans can expect from the upcoming "Heroes Reborn," the 13-episode event series that revives the concept for a new audience after five years.

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Weiland begins the conversation by thanking Kring for making "Heroes" and the role its success played in CBR's own success. Kring then explains how the 2007-2008 Writers Guild Strike ultimately killed the series as well as his fascination with origin stories. Moving to "Heroes Reborn," Kring provides details on where the story picks up for the world he created, the characters who are returning and what fans can expect from the revival.

On the Writers' Strike and the death of "Heroes":

Tim Kring: We were 10 months before ["Heroes"] came back on the air, and that's a long time to sustain an audience over a big break. Something like "Heroes" ... when it came out, it had a phenomena feeling to it. It was shiny and new. It's hard to stay shiny and new for a long time. So when you kill the momentum -- yes, it is hard to get that back.

On what fans new and old can expect from "Heroes Reborn":

It truly is 13 episodes and then the series ends. ... We left the series at a very interesting time -- a very big plot point in the last minute of the last episode, when Claire Bennet's character leaps off of the top of this Ferris wheel in front of news cameras. And basically, for the first time in our show, these powers were outed. I think what a lot of people don't realize when they look back on the show is nobody knew about these powers. They were all hidden. So we literally end the series with the idea that the public is going to know about them. And we pick up five years later, and if you watched the show then you know that Claire and her father had a lot of conflict over sort of coming out with these powers. So sure enough, Claire's father -- HRG, Jack Coleman's character -- turned out to be correct. The world wouldn't accept them. The world was going to persecute and exploit anybody who was different. So he was right and that's where we drop into our story five years later. The world has rejected people with powers. And there's been a seminal event that has happened one year prior to when our story started that everyone blames on people with powers. We now have a name for the people with powers -- now, they're called "Evos," which stands for "evolved humans." So now, "Evos" are hiding, trying to stay out of public eye.


In the second half of their discussion, "Heroes Reborn" Executive Producer Tim Kring divulges what he's learned from the failure of "Heroes," and how the lengthy seasons contributed to the waning of the show's initial popularity. Kring also describes his personal approach to the series and the challenges of creating both iterations of the show.

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On how the new series is built to avoid the failures of the original:

I have to say a lot of it is a byproduct, or a lot of it is mitigated, by the 13-episode order. By not having an open road ahead of us -- and we didn't know what the end of it was -- we did 13 episodes the first year, the second season our order was for 26, the third season our order was for 25. We were a show, and I don't think a lot of people know this, we took 14 months to make the first year of that show so we were facing a kind of mathematical impossibility here to figure out how we were gonna keep that quality up and that energy up on the schedule that we had. I do think a lot of it is mitigated by having a story that we know has a beginning, a middle and an end. and we know when that is. We can then tell story very aggressively, which means that when you don't have the art of the stall, you don't have to take a lot of weird directors in order to stall the ending and all of those kinds of things. I do think that a lot of it is mitigated by that. As we were saying earlier, it's hard to be shiny and new for a long time, so I think some of the problems that we faced just came from the sheer amount of story that we had to tell and try to maintain this aura of being rare and special like cable shows are when we were, frankly, neither rare nor special -- we were on all the time. It's hard to maintain that sense of scarcity that you want to come back.

On creating "Heroes" and "Heroes Reborn":

The way I approached this show was -- it's a show about characters and the idea of people dealing with the idea that they were extraordinary. It wasn't about their powers. It was about their struggles. Their affliction of having something added to their life. They were trying to date somebody or they're trying to get along on the job and they discover that they can fly. It was sort of an additive thing to their life. And when you look back on that original series, it really was about two families. It was about the Petrellis and the Bennet family, and all those dramas. So at the heart of it, it's always been about character. I do think that, at the end of the day, that's how you stay sort of consistent and relevant, because I think people always want to connect to characters.