In “The Wrong Side,” I examine comic book fights that were particularly notable in the wrong side winning (or at least that the fight wasn’t won the “right” way). This really isn’t a big deal, of course, as it doesn’t really matter if the “wrong” person won a fight. But it’s fun to talk about!
If you want to suggest a fight for future inclusion in this feature, drop me a line at email@example.com. Don’t suggest a fight in the comments!
Today, based on a suggestion from Mark M., we look at the time that Ghost Rider and a bunch of bikers took down the Hulk!
As always, first we spotlight their power levels and then examine the fight itself.
And as always, the first question we need to ask to determine their power level is…
How did these people do when they fought Spider-Man?
The original supernatural Ghost Rider really didn’t fight Spider-Man much. They met each other a number of times, but they were all team-ups.
Their only slight fights came in “Marvel Team-Up” #58 (by Chris Claremont, Sal Buscema and Pablo Marcos), where Spider-Man tries to keep Ghost Rider from using his hellfire on the Trapster and fails completely…
And when Ghost Rider is brainwashed in “Marvel Team-Up” #91 (by Steven Grant, Pat Broderick and Bruce Patterson), where Ghost Rider acquits himself pretty well against Spidey…
The Hulk, meanwhile, has done quite well against Spider-Man, all things considered.
Look at this bit from “Amazing Spider-Man” #14 (by Stan Lee and Steve Ditko)…
Did the Hulk just take a punch dead on from Spider-Man and not even flinch?!!? That was SPIDER-MAN there! The most powerful being in the universe!!
Spidey then pretty much just ran from the Hulk in that story. Spider-Man DID manage to knock the Hulk down by catching the Hulk off-balance in “Amazing Spider-Man” #119 (by Gerry Conway and John Romita)…
But then he defaulted to his general strategy in fighting the Hulk, which is to keep away from the jade giant and try to direct the Hulk away from populous areas.
Okay, so on to the fight!
In “Ghost Rider” #11 (by Tony Isabella, Sal Buscema, John Tartaglione and George Roussos), Johnny Blaze is taking part in a survival motorcycle race in the desert. Naturally, the motorcyclists run into the Hulk and the Hulk is not happy about it. So Blaze turns into the Ghost Rider and he does his best against the Hulk, but his best is not particularly great, but then he is saved by two of the motorcyclists!!
Really, the idea of forcing the Hulk into a situation where he is trapped and then burning the oxygen out of his lungs is not a bad idea (later writers suggested that the Hulk doesn’t need to breathe, but that’s neither her nor there, as when the story was written, the presumption was that the Hulk DID need air to breathe).
However, the problem is that there is no way that two motorcyclists circling him like that would actually pin the Hulk down. THAT’s the “wrong” aspect of this fight. There’s no way that those two bikers could pin the Hulk down like that. “Oh man, I throw tanks around, but a motorcycle riding too close to me is too scary. I guess I’m trapped!”
Thanks to Mark for the suggestion!
If anyone else has a suggestion, drop me a line at firstname.lastname@example.org!
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