Welcome to the fifth weekly installment of Lying In The Gutters, a gossip and rumour column serving the comic book industry by putting a whoopee cushion on its seat. The traffic lights on each story are my takes on their reliability. Green lets you know I believe it, Amber let’s you know I reckon there’s something in it somewhere, Red lets you know I think it’s quite possibly bullshit. But then you never know. The lights are just an indication – doesn’t mean a red can’t be true and a green can’t be false. Take everything you read with a squeeze of vinegar in the eye – and if you do repost information here elsewhere, please include a warning to that effect, and a link right Back to where you are now. Ta.
QUESADA OUT, ALONSO UP?
I understand however while there are powerplays at Marvel between New York and Hollywood, the people above are quite happy with that. Divide and rule as it were. And while they may encourage the Hollywood view that Joe is out, it might bear little relation to the reality.
And of course, while Joe Quesada was Editor-In-Chief of “Fury,” Axel Alonso was its editor.
“STORMWATCH” TO STAR AUTHORITY
Thank goodness for that, Micah.
“SHONEN JUMP” LINE-UP
Yuyu Hakusho (1991, Yoshihiro Togashi)
Yu-Gi-Oh! (1996, Kazuki Takahashi)
One Piece (1997, Eiichiro Oda)
Dragon Ball (1984, Bird Studio)
Naruto (2000, Masashi Kishimoto)
Shaman King (1998, Hiroyuki Takei)
Sandland (2000, Bird Studio)
The credits details the year of copyright and the co-copyright holder, but all the titles mentioned are co-copyright by Shueisha Inc. as well.
DRACULA CANCELLED BEFORE SALES WERE IN
Landing in sixth place on Diamond’s graphic novels list, ahead of both New X-Men Imperial TPB and GI Joe, it seemed quite a mystery. Could it be over writer and ex-Editor-In-Chief Marv Wolfman who recently revealed he was blacklisted at Marvel because he sued them for ownership of Blade?
Joe Quesada gave what seemed an honest answer;
“When we looked at the overwhelming number of TPBs that we were working on we needed to pick a few projects to take off the list to relieve a much exhausted staff. We looked it over and TOD was one of those to go because of the amazing amount of man hours it was going to take to put together, clean up pages and find missing material. Honestly, I had no idea it would have done so well, we just thought it was one of those that no one would miss. Well, never underestimate the power of the ‘Essentials,’ and never let it be said that I can’t admit a mistake!”
Lying In The Gutters looks forward to a resolicitation, Joe…
GI JOE/X-MEN BY KERON GRANT
It’s to be drawn by the Fantastic Four Marvel Mangaverse team of Keron Grant, Rob Stull and Chris Walker. Writer and schedule are still unknown…
DAVID FINCH ON “ULTIMATE X-MEN”
“I’m just blown away. And while I’m damn happy you’re finally getting to do the X-men you love so much, I’m gonna miss you, man. This has been an amazing run.”
Minutes later, the original post had been changed to obscure the X-men reference. But “Ultimate X-Men” it appears to be.
I had it later confirmed that Andy Kubert wouldn’t be replaced on “Ultimate X-Men” but since it was one of the books that was stepping up to eighteen issues a year, Finch would draw an arc at the same time as Kubert was working on the title.
MCKONE, RANEY, EXCLUSIVE?
MOORE TO WORK FOR VERTIGO?
Alan Moore is in Wales at the moment and out of contact. DC did not choose to respond. To anything. Even a request for some doughnuts.
DC EXPAND POSSIBILITIES – A BIT
Hence their recent attempt to get Bendis onto “Challengers of The Unknown.”
SUPERMAN REVIVAL AT SAN DIEGO?
ULTIMATISATION PART FOUR
BLACK PANTHER ONE PAGE ALL THERE IS
It should have been. I’m told it’s the only page Oscar completed in the two months he was allocated to draw the entire book.
THE GHOST OF JOSEPH ILLIDGE AT DC
Sounded familiar to me. Checking through my notes, it seems that it bears a heavy resemblance to the “Batman: Family” event that Joseph Illidge tried to push through with Moore years ago and were knocked back. Joseph complained of bad treatment at the company in a classic All the Rage that can be read here.
Old ideas never die, they just run around the approval circuit.
MADMAN 2 GOES AWOL
However this was not to be. Pat Sullivan of Diamond UK, wrote to retailers “Due to a clerical error ‘Madman Picture Exhibition #2’ (MAR021888) was allocated, however Diamond UK’s numbers were not included in the final allocation so we shall not be receiving any copies of this issue.”
Madman 3 has been made fully returnable and Madman 4 has had its orders made adjustable, but currently the UK is in a “Madman Picture Exhibition 2” drought.
This is a rare scenario – only an issue of “Bacchus” that never shipped to the UK springs to mind. Oh, and then there was that fuss with the “Elseworld Eighty Page Giant”….
“X-MEN EVOLUTION” SALES SPIKE
North American pre-order figures came in this week at ICV2. They show a steady decline, issue after issue, except… well, see for yourself.
Nov X-Men Evolution #1 – 32,619
Dec X-Men Evolution #2 – 25,035 (-23.3%)
Jan X-Men Evolution #3 – 23,841 ( -4.8%)
Feb X-Men Evolution #4 – 19,858 (-16.7%)
Mar X-Men Evolution #5 – 18,499 ( -6.7%)
Apr X-Men Evolution #6 – 17,407 ( -5.9%)
May X-Men Evolution #7 – 16,747 ( -3.8%)
Jun X-Men Evolution #8 – 15,927 ( -4.9%)
Jul X-Men Evolution #9 – 15,243 ( -4.3%)
Aug X-Men Evolution #10 – 24,647 (+61.7%)
CONSTANTINE, SEEN FROM THE BOTTOM OF A GLASS
It’s the memoirs of a pub regular.
Of course there are memory lapses and inaccuracies.
The comic life of John Constantine is like your relationship with a pub.
You find a new pub, and you have a vague idea of it, and start to go there occasionally. This was what Alan Moore and Rick Veitch brought us.
In the Eighties, many old pubs were tarted up, usually with a bit of old and a bit of new stuff (blow lamps, tennis rackets, old photos). Occasionally the Fruit Machine got a bit too garish.This was Jamie Delano’s consolidation of JC.
And then, some fool came up with the idea of turning every other pub into an Irish bar. It’s corny and intrusive, but often the pub remains a good place to be, and the old regulars stay. That’s Garth Ennis for yez.
Although Eddie Campbell is an expert of the booze, and I’d trust him to run a good pub, he had other ideas. And the pub was briefly converted to an Aussie Bar.
The Wetherspoons chain moves in. Cheap reasonable beer, no loud music, nice places to meet, often crowded with alcohol abusers. Paul Jenkins did some of that.
And then we were returned briefly to the old familiar surroundings of the local, by one of the old regulars, Warren Ellis, but this was not enough for the brewery. They didn’t like some of the old crowd turning up with their shooters. So they closed it.
Actually, the temp Eastern European landlord was quite good, but he was on a short term deal.
The brewery took the stripped down decor and converted it to a Cheers Bar with a room at the back for cool and trendy S&M folk. It wasn’t a place I liked to hang out any more, the music was too loud, and some of the new regulars were too brash.
I hear there’s a new landlord coming in, and he plans to turn the pub back to it’s traditional. I’ll be there for a stayback on the opening night.
X-FORCE ORIGINAL PLANS
Mike writes “It’s crazy how it happened. We went back and forth. Actually Tike’s number was up–decided as long ago as last summer. Then we stated rethinking it at the last minute and her fate created its own inertia. In the end everyone (Axel, Peter and I) agreed that Edie’s story had been told–her death would move Guy to a new place–and her presence would continue to echo on in a powerful way unlike those who went before her. I miss her terribly, but it made for the most powerful and tragically sad end to the X-Force series we could muster. Now, how do we replace her? We can’t. And that’s a good thing.
“And hey, “X-Force”/”X-Statics” fans, did you know that Coach was originally meant to be a woman? In the first preview of the title, Coach was described ‘she’s this old hag who gives the team their missions'”
SCOTT LOBDELL, PARIAH AT X-BOOKS
“Alas, it is pretty obvious to all parties that I am not invited around the X-Men Universe any more. (People don’t know this, but a few months ago, I did a series of ‘X-Men Unlimited’ stories when Mark Powers had control over the book. But once it was moved on to another editor, the scripting of all those stories was taken out of my hands. Now with Mark given the boot…I think the likelihood of me working on anything X-related/or Marvel related…is slim to none.)
“I am totally okay with it though — I had a great run and it was a lot of fun. I realize that the people currently in charge at Marvel feel appropriately threatened by the ever decreasing sales and the need to convince people that their uniformed deconstruction of the Marvel Universe is brilliant. A Lobdell scripted X-Book that out sold all the other books in the line…gosh, how would that look?!)”
Hmmm. Slightly tongue in cheek, possibly?
MARVEL ANTAGONISE VERY BIG COUNTRY
Currently , Marvel’s “Thor” title recently featured a scene where Asgard appears above New York City and the UN discuss the situation. It’s the Chinese and only the Chinese representative who says “We should shoot them down now” and then orders nuclear missiles to be directed towards Asgard (which would wipe out New York at the same time), for the sake of Beijing’s safety.
No Chinese sales for Marvel, then…
COLOSSUS, PSYLOCKE IN THE WINGS
“Chris and I killed Psylocke with the idea of revive her without the Crimson Dawn powers and with her english body, that was our idea. But when we talk with Joe (Quesada) and tell him the story he told us that it isn’t possible, he told us that the X-Books made always the same with the dead people, so revive Psylocke is a unacceptable plot.
“Yes, the guilty of the permanent dead of Betsy is Joe Quesada, not Chris Claremont. But the surprises (and the hope) don’t finish here…
“We (Chris and Salvador) have eight possibles plots with the revival of Colossus and two more with the revival of Psylocke, although Joe don’t give us the green card to plot that stories, we are everyday asking him about this question, I’m sure he’ll finally let us do”
MAGNUS, SOLAR TO RETURN?
GARTH ENNIS AND JOHN MCREA’S CONDOM, SPLITS
Did Millarworld on Friday. Simultaneous drink ups around the globe to celebrate the launch of Mark Millar’s Web site. Except, as far as I can tell, no one actually mentioned it at all the entire evening.
Coincidentally met Johanna Constantine writer Andy Diggle in Comics Showcase. We tubed to Russell Square and were the first there. Sad gits we.
Fraser Irving turned up shortly, as did a couple of stragglers. Then the Monarchy board landed, Millar pitched in with apprentice, lackey and general all round gimp, Mark Peyton. We went to get Chinese.
Returned to find the V Forum, Pete Hogan and a bunch of others in the pub, drank, got taxis, found Millar’s hotel room, woke up the family next door banging on it (the taxi driver had taken them the scenic route at twice the price. Never get into a London cab without a local accent) and tried to put one of the promotional “Dicks” condoms over the smoke detector in Millar’s room. It split. Don’t use them guys and gals, otherwise you’ll have lots of little Avatar-fuelled babies.
Some terribly entertaining stories were told.
That James Hudnall borrowed a hundred dollars off Garth Ennis at a con in 1996, paid him back in 1997, only for Garth to discover James had borrowed the money from Steve Dillon to pay Garth back.
That Nick Locking, Transformers geek, all-round good egg, and originator of the V Forum is to write a story for Avatar’s Night Radio issue 2. Nick Locking denied the rumour. But he looked at me funny when he said it.
That Nanci Quesada kept threatening Jae Lee that if he didn’t produce work she would drive down to Virginia and sit there until he got it done. The threats went on for weeks and months. Finally one day Jae was so far behind that she got in her car and drove all the way to Virginia unannounced. Jae was so freaked and impressed that she would do that that he got on the stick and began producing again.
That Joe Quesada paid Frank Quitely twice on “New X-men” what he was making on “The Authority.” So Frank did half as much work. Indeed, four pages in three months at one point, but now his wife is cracking down on him and Frank’s schedule should be shooting up as a result.
And then there’s the sexual stuff… which will just have to wait till Lying In The Gutters Live.
I fucked off around 2-ish. On the bus back, I discovered that the “BadGirls And FanBoys” I bought at Showcase to get signed by Millar has a chapter about me in it and, ahem, the Uncle Ben Child Abuser story. Oh great. Not quite accurate, but hey. And they could have given me a fucking link.
Anyway, have some low-quality Handspring photos.
|Mark Millar in bed with three strange men||Mark Millar enthralled by his new apprentice, Mark Peyton.|
|An ex-editor of 2000AD up far too close! Get away from me you freak!||“Who are you looking at, you rumour loving gonk?”|
|Frazer Irving pokes out own eye, Andrew Wheeler laughs at the horror of it all.||The entire readership of the Monarchy.|
Last week’s speculation that 1602 may concern the birthdate of a certain saint, also know as the Flying Friar, has been proved erroneous by the simple fact that he was born in 1603. Bugger.
Right then. It sounded a good enough idea for a superhero story when I thought Gaiman might be doing it, so I’m going to do it myself. A medieval superhero story, The Name Of The Rose meets Superman, Cadfael meets Batman, and me having some very silly ideas meeting some blank sheets of paper.
I might draw it myself, but if anyone else fancies the idea, email me.
1603, probably from Twist And Shout Comics, sometime early next year. Unless any other publishers are interested…
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